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Jordan Administrator
Posts : 1766 Join date : 2012-01-21 Age : 34
| Subject: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Wed May 01, 2013 10:08 am | |
| If anyone gets all six correct, I'll double the prize to $50. Good luck! | |
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chrisjen Nationwide Rookie
Posts : 436 Join date : 2012-04-27 Age : 67 Location : Folsom ,Louisiana
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Wed May 01, 2013 8:33 pm | |
| I would like someone smarter than me like Woody or Ray to calculate the odds of picking the top 6 at Talladega,I bet it's a really big number!you could give us the top ten last lap coming into the trioval and no one would get the top six | |
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WoodsRacing Sprint Cup Veteran
Posts : 1580 Join date : 2012-01-23
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Wed May 01, 2013 10:45 pm | |
| I'll take a stab at it if you quit putting yourself down as not as smart as others!
I'd say there are two distinct answers; one the pure mathematical answer which sees all drivers as equally capable of success and the other answer (which can certainly only be an 'estimated' answer) is the one that knows you, the picker, know some drivers have better chances than others of finishing in the Top-6, ie, you're more likely to put Kenseth on your list than Kvapil.
The way I'd approach the true mathematical odds is:
6/43 x 5/42 x 4/41 x 3/40 x 2/39 x 1/38 = 720/4,389,446,880
which breaks down to mean you'd randomly get it right one time in a little over 6 million attempts. (1/6,096,454).
My method above assumes there are 6 places your first pick of 43 possible drivers can finish (6/43) multiplied times the 5 places your next pick of the 42 remaining drivers would have to finish times 4 places your next pick of the 41 remaining drivers, etc, etc, etc.
Now, looking at the more realistic odds - the odds which factor in your knowledge of drivers, etc, it's harder. If you considered - just thinking in terms of average here - that the 'Vegas Odds' were given that several of the 'favorable drivers' have a 1 in 4 chance (I'm just speculating here) of finishing in the Top-6 then the formula would be:
1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 =1/4096
I'm tending to believe that if 4000 of us made picks someone would get it right. Maybe several of us. | |
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rmiller Inaugural FRO Champ
Posts : 1769 Join date : 2012-01-22 Location : Lenexa Ks
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Thu May 02, 2013 9:03 am | |
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rmiller Inaugural FRO Champ
Posts : 1769 Join date : 2012-01-22 Location : Lenexa Ks
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Thu May 02, 2013 9:04 am | |
| - Jordan wrote:
- If anyone gets all six correct, I'll double the prize to $50.
Good luck! Send money now,I'll hold it til i get 6. | |
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Humphrey Racing Truck Series Champion
Posts : 288 Join date : 2012-01-28 Age : 82 Location : The Great City Of Manassas Va.
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Thu May 02, 2013 9:34 am | |
| - WoodsRacing wrote:
- I'll take a stab at it if you quit putting yourself down as not as smart as others!
I'd say there are two distinct answers; one the pure mathematical answer which sees all drivers as equally capable of success and the other answer (which can certainly only be an 'estimated' answer) is the one that knows you, the picker, know some drivers have better chances than others of finishing in the Top-6, ie, you're more likely to put Kenseth on your list than Kvapil.
The way I'd approach the true mathematical odds is:
6/43 x 5/42 x 4/41 x 3/40 x 2/39 x 1/38 = 720/4,389,446,880
which breaks down to mean you'd randomly get it right one time in a little over 6 million attempts. (1/6,096,454).
My method above assumes there are 6 places your first pick of 43 possible drivers can finish (6/43) multiplied times the 5 places your next pick of the 42 remaining drivers would have to finish times 4 places your next pick of the 41 remaining drivers, etc, etc, etc.
Now, looking at the more realistic odds - the odds which factor in your knowledge of drivers, etc, it's harder. If you considered - just thinking in terms of average here - that the 'Vegas Odds' were given that several of the 'favorable drivers' have a 1 in 4 chance (I'm just speculating here) of finishing in the Top-6 then the formula would be:
1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 =1/4096
I'm tending to believe that if 4000 of us made picks someone would get it right. Maybe several of us. With odds like this you might consider buying a lottery ticket at the same time you make your six picks... | |
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chrisjen Nationwide Rookie
Posts : 436 Join date : 2012-04-27 Age : 67 Location : Folsom ,Louisiana
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Thu May 02, 2013 9:52 am | |
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Humphrey Racing Truck Series Champion
Posts : 288 Join date : 2012-01-28 Age : 82 Location : The Great City Of Manassas Va.
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Thu May 02, 2013 11:05 am | |
| I won't have a lot of time to play around this weekend, so I'll just post mine now.......... (got this right off the CDM research site) #2,Keselowski #15,Bowyer #88,Jr #29,Harvick #78,Kurt Busch #24,Gordon Made one little change for 5th,they had D.Ragan,and just bumped Busch up a notch... THANKS, Good Luck All! | |
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Humphrey Racing Truck Series Champion
Posts : 288 Join date : 2012-01-28 Age : 82 Location : The Great City Of Manassas Va.
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Thu May 02, 2013 11:05 am | |
| - Humphrey Racing wrote:
- I won't have a lot of time to play around this weekend, so I'll just post mine now..........
(got this right off the CDM research site) #2,Keselowski #15,Bowyer #88,Jr #29,Harvick #78,Kurt Busch #24,Gordon Made one little change for 5th,they had D.Ragan,and I just bumped Busch up a notch... THANKS, Good Luck All! | |
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Zacky1053 Nationwide Rookie
Posts : 417 Join date : 2013-02-23 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Thu May 02, 2013 3:55 pm | |
| Unless someone backs out of the race before race day this is probably the one week where waiting til after practice and qualifying won't work to a player's advantage in picking the Top Six.
That being said, I'll most likely do just that anyway. lol | |
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marc6969 Truck Series Rookie
Posts : 89 Join date : 2012-02-10
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sat May 04, 2013 5:49 pm | |
| Earnhardt Jr Ky Busch Keselowski Bowyer Ku Busch Burton | |
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jb fastcat Truck Series Veteran
Posts : 177 Join date : 2012-01-31
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sat May 04, 2013 7:19 pm | |
| 2---Brad Keselowski 15--Clint Bowyer 20--Matt Kenseth 31--Jeff Burton 29--Kevin Harvick 5---Kasey Kahne | |
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DOCSLOCKS Truck Series Veteran
Posts : 218 Join date : 2012-01-26 Age : 66 Location : Taylorsville Ga.
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sat May 04, 2013 9:14 pm | |
| Bowyer
Kenseth
Harvick
Kyle Busch
Ewards
Kahne
Thanks doc | |
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cheeseyyy Truck Series Rookie
Posts : 93 Join date : 2012-02-15 Age : 67 Location : magnolia,de
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sat May 04, 2013 9:47 pm | |
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BOOMER SOONER Truck Series Veteran
Posts : 238 Join date : 2012-02-12
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sat May 04, 2013 10:13 pm | |
| 5.....KAHNE 15...BOWYER 18...KYLE BUSCH 24...JEFF GORDON 29...HARVICK 88...DALE JR | |
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tramz18 Truck Series Veteran
Posts : 199 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sat May 04, 2013 10:14 pm | |
| 1-johnson 2-edwards 3-boyer 4-kenseth 5-hamlin 6-kyle busch | |
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kato Truck Series Rookie
Posts : 72 Join date : 2012-02-25
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sat May 04, 2013 11:13 pm | |
| Kyle Busch, Johnson, Bowyer , Edwards, Keselowsky, Kahne | |
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Team Horton Truck Series Rookie
Posts : 25 Join date : 2013-02-21
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 12:48 am | |
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robin12 Truck Series Veteran
Posts : 114 Join date : 2012-01-22
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 1:31 am | |
| Kenseth Burton Edwards Kyle Busch Biffle Kahne | |
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rmiller Inaugural FRO Champ
Posts : 1769 Join date : 2012-01-22 Location : Lenexa Ks
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 5:40 am | |
| kenseth gordon johnson edwards harvick kahne | |
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Rocky Top Truck Series Champion
Posts : 342 Join date : 2012-01-27 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 8:27 am | |
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SneakyLilDevil Truck Series Champion
Posts : 298 Join date : 2012-01-23 Age : 108 Location : Lake City, SC
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 8:30 am | |
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Fred & Barney Nationwide Rookie
Posts : 464 Join date : 2012-01-22 Location : Weeks Mills, ME
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 9:03 am | |
| 15-Bowyer 29-Harvick 88-Jr 5-Kahne 20-Kenseth 24-Gordon | |
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Lady in Black Truck Series Veteran
Posts : 135 Join date : 2012-01-27 Age : 46 Location : north carolina
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 11:32 am | |
| #29 Harvick #2 Keslo #20 Matt #14 Stewart #24 Gordon #22 Joey | |
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MadDog Racing Truck Series Veteran
Posts : 141 Join date : 2012-02-12 Location : Rochester, NY
| Subject: Re: Pick Six: Week 10 - Talladega (post picks here) Sun May 05, 2013 12:04 pm | |
| Bowyer
Keselowski
Earnhardt jr.
Johnson
Kyle Busch
Harvick | |
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